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Dec 09 2013

OpenMandriva and ROSA

After our first release we’ve received few questions about how OpenMandriva content differs from Rosa’s, and the nature of the relationship between OpenMandriva, ROSA and Mandriva SA?
Technically speaking, OpenMandriva and ROSA share a common basic codebase as do all linux distributions. OMA and ROSA teams work in close cooperation exchanging code in both directions which constantly improves and maintains this shared base.
This is the concept behind FLOSS: to be able to take someone’s work and quite effortlessly rebuild it elsewhere thus these similarities are natural for any FLOSS based distribution.

This commonality of code doesn’t result in OpenMandriva and ROSA being the same; far from it in fact, “OpenMandriva Lx 2013.0” has unique features such as a more complete implementation of the KDE stack which includes kmail, krita, amarok. It is built with a newer toolchain that takes advantage of some of the latest optimisations.

It is built with a newer toolchain that takes advantage of some of the latest optimisations. We use glibc-2.18 and are progressing well down the path of support for the ARM architecture. Much of our additional code is directed toward optimisation of the KDE Desktop. A newer kernel release which supports later hardware and that is tweaked for desktop use. Speedy booting is aided by systemd-208 integration. We also include an enhanced printing stack.

It is hard to compare OpenMandriva, a community organized and built system, with that of ROSA a rock solid commercial distribution. Their aims and usage are different. OpenMandriva Cooker will always be a balance between cutting edge elements and new ideas and the need for stability and simplicity – and ROSA, being a commercial company, needs to carefully implement only fully tested and reliable components to ensure maximum stability for their user base.
So it can be seen that a shared code base can be directed to achieve different results: such are the benefits of cooperative effort brought about by the FLOSS approach.

This goes some way to explain the working relationship between OpenMandriva and ROSA as
OpenMandriva builds a distribution in a manner that targets the aspects which its members need and desire. Should a commercial company find the features of our OpenMandriva appealing – they support us, which we welcome, as this allows us to continue to build and improve the OpenMandriva distribution in our own unique and collaborative way.
We hope that in the future other companies may find our efforts to produce a modern and innovative system so appealing they will wish to emulate us.

The real strength of OpenMandriva though is in our ideals. We are in the process of creating
an international distribution where we are directing our efforts to work to professional standards. This is a hard and difficult task in the naturally anarchic world of Open Source but we hope one day people who have contributed to OpenMandriva will find it serves as a passport to work on high visibility projects. We invite you to join us; it will be a bumpy road at first but the more help we have the smoother will be the ride…

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  1. arun

    Excellent work, but kindly support gnome. Without gnome its a problem

  2. gerzal

    un excellent travail et un effort extraordinaire dans une periode si courte
    mon souhait est : lorsque ROSA, OpenMandriva et Mageia sont tous des distributions filles de la celebre Mandriva, pourquoi ne pas regrouper vos efforts avec ceux du groupe de Mageia afin de produire une seule version communautaire et une autre commerciale comme le cas de RedHat et Fedora ?
    merci infiniment d’avoir nous fourni une telle merveille.

  3. joaco

    The problem is that Mageia doesn’t want that. Rosa existed even when Mandriva was a still a good distro and Mageia came later. But when Mandriva fell definetively and the now developers of OpenMandriva asked to work with Mageia, Mageia didn’t want to work with them, so they went to ROSA.

  4. joaco

    Ok, but what changes beetween OpenMandriva and ROSA Desktop Fresh, they are almost the same to me. The only reason I would choose OpenMandriva is if they assure me you can do a safe upgrade of the distro, can you do it with OpenMandriva?

  5. jorge

    Huh?

    joaco, it seems you missed something, OpenMandriva works with Rosa since the beginning of its creation. Rosa is not a fallback after a fail with Mageia or whatever.

  6. Blackcrack

    Colin, good words !
    gerzal, Mageia was building from an Cheating/trickery team in my opinion.. Started by Ann ! helped by Wobo who has the german Mandrivauser.de on this time and the Frace Dudes has not really understands what going on..
    They are(Magea-Peoples who building up Mageia) has ever tell, “we are make it for the User we are Do it for more Stability” and therewith manipulate they are the whole German Community ! with mandrakeuser.de, .. and almost would have the former C.O. found an Supporter for mandriva linux Distribution.. but all was on this crashed, because.. Mageia comes up and therewith everything was nullified :\…
    And now, want Mageia of course retain their “clean” vest and certainly would like to have it, to be OM Lx does not work and bring to the grave.. and i bet, this is the hottest wish from they are .. .. how ever.. I hope, OM Lx goes the way of Mandriva/Mandrake in Software.. like Gael Duval told, like a Wikipedia of Software (all Software and Windowsmanagers !!) and The Orginal way of The Drakinstaller aaaand Draktools, because Drakinstaller and Draktools just belong together ! The Free Opinion on Installing and the Free Opinion on Configuration ! This it is what makes Mandrake so also OM Lx ! (The “original installer”, an other President and.. what was the 3.rd? humm mus look in my ML-Mail) So, i hope it’s comes now more close to Mandrake Software, but more modern and working with systemd and others actual Software..
    So, greetings to TC, QA and Artworks and my frends naturlemonde ;)
    best regards
    Blacky

  7. dave

    “Mageia was building from an Cheating/trickery team”?
    Mageia was built after Anne and co. were fired from Mandriva S.A., so do not understand why you think they are traitors.
    To be honest there have always been friction between the Edge.it group and the rest of Mandriva, and look at the case when it was time to fire someone the first to be removed were just the those who were part of Edge.it group. So who is the first betrayer?
    Now i’m not here to point the finger to someone and blame him, just wish that people speak knowledgeably and not by hearsay.

  8. Blackcrack

    it’s really funny that Mageia is recommended instead of the own Distriebution and bring people to the own Distro.. !
    http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=138292&p=860802#p860802

    best regards
    Blacky

  9. FarmerBill

    I’m a farmer, not a computer whiz. My 4-year-old laptop that I depend on runs Mandriva 2010.2. Needless to say, I am unable to get updates and patches to important programs, or at least I am not knowledgeable enough to accomplish this. I have also had experience in the past with trying to update to a new distro and thereby causing a major crash, with loss of data.

    With all of this said, what are my best choices to move forward? Mageia, OpenMandriva, another flavor altogether? I have used Mandrake and Mandriva since the 1990s, but this regimen of required changes is something that causes a lot of pain and anguish.

    Thanks for listening–

    Bill

    1. jcl vanier

      Hello,
      OpenMandriva is a good choice :)
      However, you should ask this kind of question in the forum which is made for … this kind of question ;)
      It will be easier to center the eventual discussion that may arise about the best way to move to the new distro.

    2. Ekaitz

      En tu caso creo que la mejor elección sería la versión LTS de 5 años de soporte de ROSA Marathon 2012. En Gnome 2 (http://mirror.rosalab.ru/rosa/unofficial/) o KDE 4 (http://mirror.rosalab.ru/rosa/rosa2012lts/iso/ROSA.2012.MARATHON.X1/). Cualquiera de estas elecciones garantiza un entorno lo mas parecido posible al que has tenido hasta ahora, junto con un largo tiempo de soporte y actualizaciones.

  10. fugazi

    Ekaitz post reads in English as:

    In your case I think the best choice would be the LTS version of 5 years of support ROSA Marathon 2012. In Gnome 2 (http://mirror.rosalab.ru/rosa/unofficial/) or KDE 4 (http://mirror.rosalab.ru/rosa/rosa2012lts/iso/ROSA.2012.MARATHON.X1/). Any of these choices ensures an environment as similar as possible to that you have had so far, along with the long time support and updates.

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